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01:18.280 --> 01:29.160 Now, The Guiding Lights, created by Erna Phillips. 01:29.160 --> 01:42.600 Why, Richard, I thought you'd already left for the office. 01:42.600 --> 01:45.160 Why, it's going on ten. 01:45.160 --> 01:46.960 I know what time it is. 01:46.960 --> 01:50.920 Laura, I've been very disturbed. 01:50.920 --> 01:52.560 You've been disturbed? 01:52.560 --> 01:55.040 What do you think I've been? 01:55.040 --> 01:57.160 Do you realize we haven't seen Dixon? 01:57.160 --> 02:00.360 Yes, I know. 02:00.360 --> 02:01.680 Grand jury hearing. 02:01.680 --> 02:02.720 Have you seen this morning's paper? 02:02.720 --> 02:07.480 Yes, it's the same story the news wrote up when Kathy was questioned at headquarters. 02:07.480 --> 02:10.480 Doesn't say anything. 02:10.480 --> 02:14.120 Repetition, Richard, makes a deep impression. 02:14.120 --> 02:19.000 Laura, I've been wanting to talk to you ever since I saw Dick at the hospital, when he 02:19.000 --> 02:24.440 asked me for a loan of $25,000. 02:24.440 --> 02:29.520 I suppose you feel guilty because you didn't give him the money so that his wife could 02:29.520 --> 02:30.920 be released on bond. 02:30.920 --> 02:32.440 Well, don't you? 02:32.440 --> 02:33.440 Certainly not. 02:33.440 --> 02:36.080 Well, I feel guilty for a number of reasons. 02:36.080 --> 02:43.560 Well, there's no doubt that he's your son with his overwhelming sense of duty. 02:43.560 --> 02:45.760 Duty is hardly the word. 02:45.760 --> 02:48.840 What I'm talking about is a matter of decency. 02:48.840 --> 02:51.600 Decency? 02:51.600 --> 02:55.880 How can you use that word in the same breath with Kathy, a girl who killed a man? 02:55.880 --> 02:57.840 You don't know that any more than I do. 02:57.840 --> 03:02.440 Well, the grand jury will decide that after they've heard the facts. 03:02.440 --> 03:08.760 Until they make their decision, neither you nor I have any right to condemn Kathy. 03:08.760 --> 03:10.600 You don't think so? 03:10.600 --> 03:13.760 Well, I do. 03:13.760 --> 03:14.760 All right. 03:14.760 --> 03:19.520 Suppose for the moment that we assume that Kathy had nothing to do with her first husband's 03:19.520 --> 03:20.520 death. 03:20.520 --> 03:25.800 Do you think that it was, there was any decency in her lying? 03:25.800 --> 03:31.080 Do you excuse the fact that Kathy married our son without having told him that he, that 03:31.080 --> 03:33.000 she was married before? 03:33.000 --> 03:43.320 As I told Kathy and Dick, how do we know whose child she's going to bear, Bob Lang's or Dick's? 03:43.320 --> 03:46.120 When did you see Kathy? 03:46.120 --> 03:55.480 Well, I, I had a long talk with her a week or so ago. 03:55.480 --> 03:59.320 No wonder we haven't heard from Dick. 03:59.320 --> 04:02.960 She's a very shrewd young woman. 04:02.960 --> 04:06.080 I explained fully our reactions to all that's happened. 04:06.080 --> 04:09.320 You have no right to talk for me, Laura. 04:09.320 --> 04:11.880 Kathy is more than willing to give Dick a divorce. 04:11.880 --> 04:14.960 She's already told him that. 04:14.960 --> 04:20.640 I can't think of anything that could have been more effective as far as our son is concerned. 04:20.640 --> 04:25.200 That's all she had to say to bring out the so-called chivalry of a young man who thinks 04:25.200 --> 04:28.800 he's an idealist and feels he has to live up to the role. 04:28.800 --> 04:30.880 Is that what you think of our son? 04:30.880 --> 04:33.600 Laura, I want to tell you something. 04:33.600 --> 04:35.680 I'm proud of Dick. 04:35.680 --> 04:39.360 He's doing no more than I do for you under similar circumstances. 04:39.360 --> 04:42.780 But I'm very much ashamed of myself as a parent. 04:42.780 --> 04:47.440 We have a fine son with a real sense of values, values that you and I don't seem to have been 04:47.440 --> 04:49.160 able to live up to. 04:49.160 --> 04:54.320 And I think you should know that from here on out, I intend to do everything I can for 04:54.320 --> 04:59.480 Dick and his wife and our grandchild. 04:59.480 --> 05:09.640 Well, perhaps you'll change your tune after the grand jury hears this case. 05:09.640 --> 05:18.320 In fact, I'm sure you will. 05:18.320 --> 05:23.560 We'll learn more about this in a moment. 05:23.560 --> 05:28.160 You know, this product gets your clothes clean. 05:28.160 --> 05:29.960 So does this one. 05:29.960 --> 05:35.040 But Duz does more than get your clothes clean. 05:35.040 --> 05:38.720 Duz scrubs out the toughest dirt. 05:38.720 --> 05:44.560 But in addition to that, Duz leaves your clothes softer and smoother. 05:44.560 --> 05:48.480 And Duz is so kind to your hands. 05:48.480 --> 05:51.760 No detergent can do a wash like Duz. 05:51.760 --> 05:54.480 It's the soap in Duz that does it. 05:54.480 --> 06:00.120 Finer, richer soap than in any other leading wash day product. 06:00.120 --> 06:04.560 Now here's a t-shirt we washed in Duz. 06:04.560 --> 06:07.480 And believe me, it's clean. 06:07.480 --> 06:08.880 Smells clean too. 06:08.880 --> 06:13.080 And something else, Duz has left this fabric softer to touch. 06:13.080 --> 06:16.360 Doesn't feel stiff, but soft and smooth. 06:16.360 --> 06:18.880 And Duz leaves your hands smooth too. 06:18.880 --> 06:23.160 Honestly, no detergent can do a wash like Duz. 06:23.160 --> 06:30.280 It's the soap in Duz that does it. 06:30.280 --> 06:51.280 And now back to the guiding light. 07:01.280 --> 07:08.960 Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, I am Richard Hanley, 07:08.960 --> 07:12.440 district attorney appointed by Judge Harris. 07:12.440 --> 07:14.880 You should know that I have been especially charged 07:14.880 --> 07:18.640 with the responsibility of appearing before this grand jury 07:18.640 --> 07:24.080 to inform you of facts through witnesses or documentary evidence 07:24.080 --> 07:29.160 of crimes that we believe to have been committed. 07:29.160 --> 07:33.960 The first case on the docket is the case of the state of California 07:33.960 --> 07:39.120 versus Kathy Lang Grant. 07:39.120 --> 07:45.760 Now we have certain information to the effect that on the night of September 12, 1952, 07:45.760 --> 07:54.000 Mrs. Grant committed the crime known as murder. 07:54.000 --> 07:58.200 Now we have documentary evidence and witnesses will testify 07:58.200 --> 08:01.840 as to what they know, what they saw, 08:01.840 --> 08:06.640 and what they heard from Kathy Lang Grant herself. 08:06.640 --> 08:14.920 Miss Alice Grant, our first witness, is ready to tell you what she knows about this crime. 08:14.920 --> 08:18.120 Miss Grant, will you tell the jury in your own words, please, 08:18.120 --> 08:23.720 exactly what you know happened on the night of September the 12th? 08:23.720 --> 08:32.560 Well, I suppose I should say first that Kathy had been sharing an apartment with me for some months. 08:32.560 --> 08:35.520 We'd become very good friends. 08:35.520 --> 08:40.760 But Kathy isn't the kind of person who talks very much about herself. 08:40.760 --> 08:46.080 I did know that she had a friend, a medical student who lived in San Francisco, 08:46.080 --> 08:48.200 with whom she'd been... 08:48.200 --> 08:50.480 Well, they had had some sort of a falling out. 08:50.480 --> 08:55.080 Now, Miss Grant, we are particularly interested in the night of September the 12th, 08:55.080 --> 08:57.880 the night that Robert Lang met his death. 08:57.880 --> 08:59.160 You knew the deceased? 08:59.160 --> 09:00.640 Oh, yes. 09:00.640 --> 09:05.160 Kathy, well, she'd been going out with him pretty regularly. 09:05.160 --> 09:10.400 She had confided in me that, well, that Bob was pretty crazy about her, 09:10.400 --> 09:14.720 but she didn't care too much about him. 09:14.720 --> 09:18.560 Personally, I think the main reason she went out with him as much as she did 09:18.560 --> 09:23.320 was because she'd had a misunderstanding with Dick Grant. 09:23.320 --> 09:25.680 Go on, Miss Grant. 09:25.680 --> 09:28.960 Well, I think that it was around Labor Day. 09:28.960 --> 09:31.120 Kathy went away for a few days, 09:31.120 --> 09:35.120 and when she came back, she told me she'd married Bob, 09:35.120 --> 09:37.600 but that she didn't want anyone to know about it. 09:37.600 --> 09:44.320 She swore me to secrecy, and, well, she was a pretty unhappy girl. 09:44.320 --> 09:46.000 Unhappy? 09:46.000 --> 09:49.760 What I mean is, the day after she married Bob, 09:49.760 --> 09:53.120 she came back to the apartment, 09:53.120 --> 09:57.120 and, well, she told me she was sorry she'd married him, 09:57.120 --> 09:59.440 that she'd made a big mistake, 09:59.440 --> 10:01.240 but she didn't know what to do about it. 10:01.240 --> 10:03.160 Yes? 10:03.160 --> 10:05.240 Well, she didn't see too much of her husband. 10:05.240 --> 10:09.520 She avoided him as much as possible. 10:09.520 --> 10:12.040 Of course, Bob was terribly in love with her. 10:12.040 --> 10:15.520 If I may ask, Miss Grimm, 10:15.520 --> 10:19.160 did Mrs. Grant, then Mrs. Lang, 10:19.160 --> 10:24.200 entertain any idea of a divorce or an annulment? 10:24.200 --> 10:26.440 Oh, yes. Yes, she did. 10:26.440 --> 10:27.840 I see. 10:27.840 --> 10:30.600 Very well. Will you go on, please? 10:30.600 --> 10:34.880 Well, anyway, on the evening of September 12th, 10:34.880 --> 10:38.400 I knew that Kathy was going to have dinner with Bob. 10:38.400 --> 10:41.040 She told me he'd pick her up at the store where she was working, 10:41.040 --> 10:44.520 and that she'd be home early. 10:44.520 --> 10:48.920 Well, at that time, I had a television program here in Los Angeles, 10:48.920 --> 10:53.360 and I did my program, and I came back to the apartment. 10:53.360 --> 10:57.000 It must have been, oh, around 11 o'clock. 10:57.000 --> 10:59.320 11 o'clock. 10:59.320 --> 11:00.880 Not 12. 11:00.880 --> 11:02.080 No. 11:02.080 --> 11:04.640 It was around 11. 11:04.640 --> 11:07.440 Kathy seemed very upset. 11:07.440 --> 11:09.960 Now, if I may interrupt, 11:09.960 --> 11:12.400 did she speak of her husband at all? 11:12.400 --> 11:15.240 No, she didn't. 11:15.240 --> 11:18.360 As I said, she was very upset. 11:18.360 --> 11:21.640 Well, having been her roommate for many months, 11:21.640 --> 11:23.240 I knew her moods pretty well, 11:23.240 --> 11:27.320 and I knew that this was no time to question her. 11:27.320 --> 11:30.600 But she did seem very depressed. 11:30.600 --> 11:35.200 I told her I had a sort of date with a friend of mine, George Stevens, 11:35.200 --> 11:38.000 and, well, since she seemed so depressed, 11:38.000 --> 11:42.480 I asked if she'd like to come along with us. 11:42.480 --> 11:44.800 Well, she surprised me. 11:44.800 --> 11:48.040 I mean, Kathy didn't usually accept that sort of an invitation, 11:48.040 --> 11:51.280 but she said she'd like nothing better. 11:51.280 --> 11:52.600 So we met Mr. Stevens at the bar. 11:52.600 --> 11:56.000 You met Mr. Stevens about what time? 11:56.000 --> 11:58.960 Oh, maybe around 11.30. 11:58.960 --> 12:00.360 I see. 12:00.360 --> 12:03.400 Now, just for the record, Miss Grimm, 12:03.400 --> 12:08.000 did you know or did Kathy tell you what time she arrived at her apartment? 12:08.000 --> 12:09.760 I know, 12:09.760 --> 12:12.720 but it couldn't have been long before I got home. 12:12.720 --> 12:15.560 I mean, her coat was on the sofa, and... 12:15.560 --> 12:17.240 Well, she's a very orderly girl. 12:17.240 --> 12:20.680 She always hung her things up when she came in, and... 12:20.680 --> 12:24.240 Well, I just assumed that she must have come in shortly before I did. 12:24.240 --> 12:27.840 Yes, but she definitely was with you and Mr. Stevens 12:27.840 --> 12:31.240 at 11.30 on the night of September the 12th. 12:31.240 --> 12:32.560 Yes. 12:32.560 --> 12:33.880 She was with us. 12:33.880 --> 12:35.880 Thank you, Miss Grimm. 12:38.440 --> 12:41.160 Ladies and gentlemen, the next witness I will call 12:41.160 --> 13:03.000 will be Mr. George Stevens. 13:03.000 --> 13:06.480 You, yes, you, will love gentle ivory soap 13:06.480 --> 13:10.280 in this handy personal size, the toilet soap size. 13:10.280 --> 13:13.440 You know, you get four cakes of personal size ivory 13:13.440 --> 13:17.800 for the same price as three cakes of other leading toilet soaps, 13:17.800 --> 13:20.000 like getting one cake free. 13:20.000 --> 13:22.080 And handy? 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